MLB reports: The Astros come into 2011 as a rebuilding team. After trading away franchise icons Lance Berkman and Roy Oswalt, this year’s edition of the Astros operates without a known identity. After years of gutting the farm system, poor drafting and development, Houston finally decided wisely last year to blow the whole team up and start again. For fans of the Astros, this means an education as to who will be the future stars of the team. Is there any hope for the Houston Astros in 2011? Judging on its 1-5 start, Houston is exactly where most prognosticators picked them. Only the winless Red Sox and Rays have worse records. Whereas the law of averages will even out Sox and Rays records soon, the Astros may not be so lucky. In what will likely be one of the toughest seasons in team history, lets take a look at some of the faces behind the ‘Stros and find if there are any players currently on the team worth keeping an eye on.
Brett Myers: Houston’s top starter has no record in his first two starts, with a sparkling 2.03 ERA. A strong season a year ago, the Astros will lean on Myers to carry their young team and pitching staff. His 6/4 BB/K ratio is a concern early on, as well as a lack of run support. Myers should be able to keep his team close in most games this season, but a shaky bullpen and lack of offense means a low win total. If Myers keeps up his strong pitching, the Astros would be wise to move him by the deadline and continue to replenish their bare farm system.
Wandy Rodriguez: Every year people jump on the Wandy bandwagon and every year I sit and watch in disbelief. The thirty-two year old Dominican left-hander has shown glimpses of good ERAs and WHIPs and even won fourteen games in 2009. When Wandy is on, he is lights out. But in just as many games he tends to be off and can be extremely frustrating to watch. The Astros just handed Rodriguez a nice contract, which will hopefully look good in the books of another team by season’s end. I don’t expect Rodriguez to be taking the Astros to the Promised Land anytime soon…thus a move for prospects is also in order. The only other pitcher worth watching in Houston is J.A. Happ, who will also be taking lumps and showing growing pains. Another inconsistent pitcher, Happ will definitely miss the run support in Philly. In a year or two, Happ should become a solid number two or three guy in the rotation.
Brandon Lyon: I will insert firstly a disclaimer that I am a huge Brandon Lyon fan. I heavily respect the man and wish him well. But there is something about Lyon being the “man” in the bullpen that doesn’t seem to work well. Looking at his year thus far, he got tattooed in his first outing to the tune of 0.1 Inn, six hits and three runs. Ouch. A solid clean outing in his second outing and two hits given up in a runless inning in his third time around. When a team relies on Brandon as their closer, they are playing with fire. With a team for nothing to play for, the Astros are willing to take their chances on Lyon for the next two seasons. I feel bad for the Houston fans as they will need to sit nervously through most ninth inning leads to Lyon pitching. He is an ok stopgap at best. Hopefully the Astros will discover a young flamethrower that will eventually take over the role. In the interim, be patient Astros fans. Be patient. Sifting through the rest of the Houston bullpen, I find little if anything to get excited about.
Hunter Pence: The current face of the Astros, Pence now twenty –eight is coming off three straight twenty-five home run seasons. With pop in his bat and spring in his glove, Pence now has to jump to the next level to be successful. With little protection in the lineup, I expect to see Pence getting fewer quality pitches to hit. This will either lead to more walks or strikeout as a result. My hope that it is the former rather than the latter. Pence’s development is up to him, if he wants to remain a decent outfielder or rise to a superstar. Patience is key and with patience will come additional power. I remain skeptical as to whether Pence can jump to the forty home run club, as I see him unfortunately plateauing at his current levels. Maybe he will prove me wrong…only time will tell.
Brett Wallace: The next big thing in Houston, Wallace had the first base job handed to him and hopefully he will run with it. One of the purest hitters in the minors, I see his bat translating well in the bigs. My only reservation is that he has mighty big shoes to fill after the departure of Berkman. Hopefully the pressure does not crash this talented young player, as the sky is the limit given his potential. Wallace will need a full year in the majors to get himself going, but I am expecting big things from him come 2012.
Carlos Lee: As the final Astros position player of note, the soon to be thirty-five year old Panamanian is the poster child for failed big contracts. With age tends to come decline and in the case of Lee, the evaporating skills are showing. Still showing decent pop, reports indicate Lee’s defense is much below par. He would be a DH if playing in the AL but with Wallace entrenched at first, there is no where else to hide him in the field but left. While the Blue Jays hit the jackpot by unloading the Vernon Wells contract on the Angels, the Astros are not going to be as lucky to find takers for Lee. The hope is that Carlos can continue to be a leader in helping the younger plays learn the ropes and hit enough to compensate for his lack of defensive skills.
Besides Pence, Wallace and Lee, I really could not find any other positional players worth discussing. While Jason Castro was finally supposed to breakout in 2011, his season ended prematurely before it even began with injury. An unfortunate occurrence but ironically fitting for a team that has hit rock bottom. To all of the Houston fans, there is hope. You still have a beautiful park and the promise that your team is finally investing in scouting, draft picks and developing players. You do not have to look far but see Cincinnati and what they went through to rebuild into the power house today. With some luck and good scouting, hopefully you will get there yourself in a few years. Good luck on the season…you will need it.
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I’d discuss Michael Bourn over Carlos Lee 100x over. Lee is one of the worst all-around players in the league and Bourn is one of the best defensive players and baserunner.
I also love love love Jordan Lyles in the minors.
A “leadoff” hitter who took 59 walks last year, has a lifetime .331 obp and unsightly .349 slg does not get a mention for me.
The Bourn identity will hit .260 and steal 50 bases. Thats it. He doesnt get on base enough and show any kind of power. Its a good thing Jason Michaels is on the team because Bourn can look across the locker room and see his future. Take out the steals, they are the same marginal player….and this is me being kind.
Bourn last two years = 8.6 fWAR
Lee last two years = 1.3 fWAR
Jason Michaels’ stats would be simply awful if he played everyday. He’s useful against LHP only. Bourn posted a +17.6 UZR last year, 5th highest among all fielders. Not even close. Bourn>Lee>Michaels.
Jonathan. You know that I am not going to accept those stats. Unless Bourn steals 100+ bases, a slug under .400 is unacceptable and no stats will make me see otherwise. The man has an an unacceptable shortage of power and does not get on base enough to justify it.
But Carlos Lee and his .290 OBP and .418 SLG since last season are ok with you? Not to mention his atrocious, at best, defense? And you mention Bourn’s 59 walks as low but fail to mention that Lee only reached that number and surpassed it once in his long career.
For a guy that tends to consistently hit 30 bombs and drive in 100 yes, I will cut slack. If you go back and actually read my article, I was not singing the praises of Lee. The fact that he is one of the few hitters left of substance isn’t saying much. At equal money, find me one team that will take Bourn over Lee. While Lee is likely to get his home runs and slg, Bourn in the leadoff can’t get on base enough. A lifetime slg under .400 is a killer. Lee over Bourn. Its not even close.
I read the whole article, brotha! I always read your stuff. I didn’t say you sang his praises but you did list him instead of Bourn. And Lee has only hit 30 homers once the past 4 seasons (not including this season). Lee is a DH that has a majorly decling bat while Bourn is a CF with some of the best fielding and baserunning skills around. Good teams won’t need to bat him leadoff and I’d venture to say that most would take Bourn over Lee, even money. And it’s not even close. Oh, and Lee will be 35 in June and Bourn will play all season at age 28. Find me a team that would take Lee even money.
Oh, and don’t get me started on RBI. Purely a relative stat and not any indication of ability, only of lineup placement and how many people get on base in front of you. Rico drove in 100 two seasons in a row.
BTW, I hope you know this is all in good baseball banter fun. =)
Its all good Jonathan. You can take it, which means you can dish it.
By no means do I want to drive the Carlos Lee bandwagon, lol. But as a heart and soul guy with a middle of the order bat, don’t be throwing no Mike “don’t call me Joey Gathright” Bourn at me. Whatever new age stats you want to use, the man does not get on base enough and has zilch power. Stolen bases and solid D are great off the bench on teams that can afford such a luxury, but as a starter Bourn is just lame for me.
Ok son, time for some schooling. The old Bill James Handbook. Let’s see his 2011 projections. Page 480 Bourn: 4 hrs, 89 runs, 38 rbis, 62 bb, 124 so, .267 avg, .341 obp, .349 slg. 51 sb. Carlos Lee page 483: 27 hrs, 74 runs, 101 rbis, 43 bb, 63 so, .279 avg, .331 obp, .473 slg. If you really still would pick Bourn, then Bill and I will disagree with you and leave it at that.
Bourn does play a spectacular centerfield, but then so does Joey Gathright. Why should I be excited about Gathright version 2.0?
I don’t think Bill James will agree with you there. Lee with a lower OBP and no doubt a lower defensive rating, lower baserunning score, and plays a position that demands much more at the plate.
Here are Lee’s ranks as a LFer last year among 30 qualifying for batting title:
AVG – 29th
OBP – 30th
SLG – 20th
OPS – 23rd
HR – 10th
wOBA – 29th
fWAR – 29th
UZR – 29th
Now Bourn’s ranks among CFer (29 qualifying):
AVG – 18th
OBP – 13th
SLG – 28th
OPS – 25th
SB – 1st
wOBA – 23rd
fWAR – 7th
UZR – 3rd
As you can see, Lee ranked last or 2nd to last in almost all categories. Now, Bourn is no superstar, but his rankings were much higher when you compare their positions they play which is a major factor in rating a player. Bourn is an above-average CFer and Lee is a well below-average LFer. There is no doubting that.
Gathright is nowhere near the same player as Bourn. Their rates and stats are way off from each other.
I guess we will agree to disagree. =)
Umm I vote for Jonathan to win this debate